{"id":5760,"date":"2024-07-18T10:40:20","date_gmt":"2024-07-18T14:40:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.med.unc.edu\/md\/studentaffairs-dev\/academic-assistance-and-advising\/career-goal-advisors\/surgery\/"},"modified":"2026-04-01T16:47:13","modified_gmt":"2026-04-01T20:47:13","slug":"surgery","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.med.unc.edu\/md\/student-affairs\/for-current-students\/advising\/career-goal-advising\/surgery\/","title":{"rendered":"Surgery"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Department Website<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.med.unc.edu\/surgery\">med.unc.edu\/surgery<\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Important Contacts<\/h2>\n<p><strong>Andrew Schneider<\/strong><br \/>\nSurgery M4 Director and Assistant Professor of Surgery<br \/>\n<a title=\"mailto:andrew_schneider@med.unc.edu\" href=\"mailto:andrew_schneider@med.unc.edu\" data-outlook-id=\"c3cce7bf-0deb-40d4-968f-5a74ba6aeeb4\">andrew_schneider@med.unc.edu<\/a><br \/>\nNote: Dr. Schneider will connect you to a CGA<\/p>\n<h2>Advisory College Videos<\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>FAQs\/Course Recommendations\/Additional Info<\/h2>\n<div role=\"tablist\" class=\"panel-group  oscitas-bootstrap-container\" id=\"unc-accordion-0\">\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-0\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-0\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-0\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-0\">\n                How do students get assigned a career goal advisor?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-0\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nStudents should contact the Clerkship Director, Dr. Schneider.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-1\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-1\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-1\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-1\">\n                What should my Individualization Phase schedule look like?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-1\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nBlock 1: Step 2 prep and Step 2; Block 2- Block 7: Surgery Rotations<\/p>\n<h4>Recommended Courses for General, Vascular Surgery<\/h4>\n<p><strong>AI\/Acting Internship<\/strong><br \/>\n2 acting internships in surgery in first 2 trimesters<\/p>\n<p><strong>Electives<\/strong><br \/>\n2<\/p>\n<h4>Recommended Courses for Cardiothoracic Surgery<\/h4>\n<p><strong>AI\/Acting Internship<\/strong><br \/>\nCardiothoraic Surgery or Thoracic (Non Cardiac) Surgery<\/p>\n<p><strong>CC\/Critical Care<\/strong><br \/>\nCritical Care Elective<\/p>\n<p><strong>Electives<\/strong><br \/>\nCardiothoraic Surgery, Cardiology or Vascular Surgery<\/p>\n<h4>Recommended Courses for Neurosurgery<\/h4>\n<p><strong>AI\/Acting Internship<\/strong><br \/>\nNeurosurgery home, 2 away rotations<\/p>\n<p><strong>CC\/Critical Care<\/strong><br \/>\nNeuro critical care<\/p>\n<p><strong>ACS\/Advanced Clinical Selective<\/strong><br \/>\nAnesthesia<\/p>\n<p><strong>Electives<\/strong><br \/>\nPathology, other surgical subspecialty, other icu, research<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-2\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-2\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-2\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-2\">\n                Do all my rotations need to be in Surgery?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-2\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nFor General Surgery, the rotation will have to be in the Divisions of the General Surgery Department. For Vascular Surgery, Rotations will have to be in the Department of General Survey with the addition of 1 AI in Vascular Surgery.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-3\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-3\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-3\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-3\">\n                Should I do an away rotation?  What in?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-3\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nAway rotations are suggested but not mandatory.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-4\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-4\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-4\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-4\">\n                Do I need a rotation at UNC if I spent my time in Charlotte \/ Asheville \/ Wilmington?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-4\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nIt is a general rule that at least 1 rotation is to be attended at UNC Central, if application phase was attended in Charlotte, Asheville, Greensboro, Raleigh, or Wilmington.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-5\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-5\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-5\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-5\">\n                When do I need to meet with my career goal advisor?  How do I prepare?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-5\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nA career goal advisor should be selected in October of App Phase. A meeting should be scheduled in September\/ October to set up the 4 th year schedule.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-6\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-6\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-6\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-6\">\n                How many letters of recommendation do I need?  From whom should I get them?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-6\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nFor General Surgery: 1. Chair&#8217;s Letter; 2. Division Chief&#8217;s Letter 3. and 4. Surgeons the student has worked during his\/her\/t 4th year. For Vascular Surgery: 1. Chair&#8217;s Letter 2. Dr. Farber&#8217;s Letter 3. Vascular Surgeon&#8217;s Letter 4. Surgeon&#8217;s Letter<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-7\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-7\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-7\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-7\">\n                When do I ask for my letters?  What do they need?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-7\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nAt the end of the rotation and generally around July-August of the application not residency year.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-8\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-8\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-8\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-8\">\n                How do I determine the best programs I should apply to?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-8\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nStudents should have insights on their perceived competitiveness in the application process. Meetings with career goal advisors may help in clarifying which programs. In addition, geographic locations, characteristics of programs and their alignment to student&#8217;s values and career pursuits (academic vs private practice) are very important factors.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-9\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-9\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-9\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-9\">\n                I just got this great piece of news\u2026do I need to notify programs            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-9\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nPrograms should be notified of any positive news.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-10\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-10\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-10\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-10\">\n                My LORs aren\u2019t in and ERAS just opened!            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-10\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nPlease contact the letter writer and politely request an update.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-11\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-11\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-11\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-11\">\n                I am waitlisted for an interview at X and I\u2019d really like to see that program.  What do I do?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-11\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nEmail the Program Director, Associate Program Director, or any faculty the student may know in the specific program.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-12\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-12\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-12\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-12\">\n                I didn\u2019t get an interview at X program.  Should I send them a \u201cletter of intent\u201d?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-12\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nEmail the Program Director, Associate Program Director, or any faculty the student may know in the specific program.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-13\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-13\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-13\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-13\">\n                Should I send thank you letters to programs?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-13\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nProfessional thank you letters should be sent to programs. The letter should be hand-written.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-14\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-14\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-14\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-14\">\n                Should I send a letter to the program I am planning to rank #1?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-14\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nIt is recommended that if the student is interested in a specific program, an email, letter, or a communication in the form of a phone call should be made with the program director to notify interest.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-15\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-15\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-15\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-15\">\n                How do I respond if a program reaches out to me after my interview?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-15\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\nA program reaching out after an interview, is a statement of interest. The student should politely answer to the communication and if there is any interest engage in further communications.<br \/>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"panel panel-default oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n    <div id=\"panel-heading-details-0-16\" class=\"panel-heading oscitas-bootstrap-container\" role=\"tab\">\n\n        <h3 class=\"panel-title oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n            <button class=\"accordion-toggle oscitas-bootstrap-container collapsed\" \n                id = \"button-details-0-16\"\n                data-toggle=\"collapse\"\n                data-parent=\"#unc-accordion-0\"    \n                aria-controls=\"#details-0-16\"  \n                aria-expanded=\"false\" \n                href=\"#details-0-16\">\n                What makes a competitive applicant in this field?            <\/button>\n\n        <\/h3>\n\n    <\/div>\n\n    <div id=\"details-0-16\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse  oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n\n        <div class=\"panel-body oscitas-bootstrap-container\">\n<p>Competitive applicants will have the following components:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>USMLE Step 2 CK: 250+<\/li>\n<li>High Pass or Honors grade on Surgery Clerkship<\/li>\n<li>High Pass or Honors grade on Surgery AI<\/li>\n<li>Strong letter of recommendation from a full professor \/ division chief<\/li>\n<li>Demonstrated commitment to Surgery in Surgery-related volunteer, research, or\u00a0work projects<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n\n    <\/div>\n        \n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Department Website med.unc.edu\/surgery Important Contacts Andrew Schneider Surgery M4 Director and Assistant Professor of Surgery andrew_schneider@med.unc.edu Note: Dr. Schneider will connect you to a CGA Advisory College Videos &nbsp; 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